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Re: Any update on Mckoi's status?



Alexander Molochnikov wrote:
> The silence is deafening...
>  
> I mean the silence of Toby, the original developer. If he is no longer 
> watching this mailing list, this speaks for itself. If he is watching, 
> but keeps silent, then this is even more telling.
>  
> Either way, I am growing more pessimistic by the hour.
>  
> And no, I do not expect a group of other Java programmers to pick up a 
> project that seems to have been abandoned. If the original authors did 
> not have enough interest and/or confidence in the merits of the 
> project, the outsiders never will.
>  
> Maybe it's just me.

I think that is not the right way to look at it. There are lots of 
people that take over "dead" or "non-responsive" projects, e.g., 
AtheOS->Syllable, Handbrake->MediaFork (now merged back in), 
Compiere->Adempiere, etc.

As I said, "dead" doesn't equate to "not good", sometimes people just 
run out of time.

-> richard

>  
> Alex Molochnikov
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard S. Hall" <heavy@ungoverned.org>
> Date: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:01 pm
> Subject: Re: Any update on Mckoi's status?
> To: mckoidb@mckoi.com
>
> > "dead" does not necessarily == "trash"...
> >
> > Sometimes leaders of open source projects also have to "wake up
> > to
> > reality" and move onto other things.
> >
> > For someone interested in leading a database project, it
> > certainly makes
> > more sense to start with an existing one than to start from
> > scratch...unless of course the existing project really is trash.
> >
> > However, I don't think that is the case for Mckoi, it always
> > worked
> > reasonably well for me. "Better" depends on the metric, but why
> > stick
> > around the mckoi mailing list if you think it is trash?
> >
> > -> richard
> >
> > Alexander Finger wrote:
> > > Personally I can't imagine why anyone would waste their time.
> > If
> > > you're going to try and help continue development on a
> > database their
> > > are plenty of better open source ones out there. McKoi is dead
> > I am
> > > sure and nothing is going to bring her back...
> > >
> > > A
> > >
> > > On Jan 28, 2008 4:42 PM, Tena Sakai <tsakai@gallo.ucsf.edu
> > > <mailto:tsakai@gallo.ucsf.edu>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Hi folks,
> > >
> > >     If I were 10 years younger,
> > >     If my mortgage was a bit less and
> > therefore I could afford to work
> > >     less than full time,
> > >     If I were a bit more fluent in database,
> > >     If I were a bit smarter and more ambitious,
> > >
> > >     THEN I would write to Tobi (is that
> > his name?) and ask:
> > >
> > >     a) would he be willing to play a role
> > of assisting a small group
> > >     of developers,
> > >     b) what plans he had had for the
> > future of mcKoi while he was
> > >     leading the project actively,
> > >
> > >     AND
> > >
> > >     If his response were positive, I would
> > assemble a small group
> > >     (fewer than 6) of java programmers...
> > >
> > >     Oops, I just woke up from a nice dream
> > and back into a reality.  I
> > >     think that's what they call this
> > >     thing I live in.  But some of you
> > may be freer, more ambirious,
> > >     more devoting...
> > >     McKoi doesn't have to die.
> > >
> > >     Tena Sakai
> > >     tsakai@gallo.ucsf.edu
> > <mailto:tsakai@gallo.ucsf.edu>>
> > >
> > >
> > >     -----Original Message-----
> > >     From: mckoidb@mckoi.com
> > <mailto:mckoidb@mckoi.com> on behalf of
> > >     Richard S. Hall
> > >     Sent: Mon 1/28/2008 1:07 PM
> > >     To: mckoidb@mckoi.com
> > <mailto:mckoidb@mckoi.com>>     Subject:
> > Re: Any update on Mckoi's status?
> > >
> > >     The benefit of Mckoi being open source
> > is that anyone that wants
> > >     to can
> > >     pick up and start where the original
> > developers left off...
> > >
> > >     -> richard
> > >
> > >     Alexander Molochnikov wrote:
> > >     > Two days ago I asked he same
> > question on this mailing list.
> > >     >
> > >     > So far, no reply from the developers
> > of the database.
> > >     >
> > >     > It does not look promising.
> > >     >
> > >     > Alex
> > >     >
> > >     > ----- Original Message -----
> > >     > From: "M. A. Sridhar"
> > <m_a_sridhar@yahoo.com>    
> > <mailto:m_a_sridhar@yahoo.com>>>     >
> > Date: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:46 am
> > >     > Subject: Any update on Mckoi's status?
> > >     > To: Mckoi mailing list
> > <mckoidb@mckoi.com>    
> > <mailto:mckoidb@mckoi.com>>>     >
> > >     > > Does anyone know what's happening
> > with Mckoi? As  you know,
> > >     > > the last email in the archives is
> > dated last June, so I'm
> > >     > > wondering if/when the next version
> > might be available.
> > >     > >
> > >     > > Regards.
> > >     > >
> > >     > > M. A. Sridhar
> > >     > > m_a_sridhar at yahoo dot com
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >
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